The recent Survey, Open Letter. (Polls)

[Daedalus]

Greetings. Wanted to start a thread on the recent email survey I and others? received.
I shared my prefs and feedback per request, but wanted to start a discussion on a few of the mentions.

1. With regards to which videos i liked best, i specifically mentioned my disposition towards 'serial corruption', where one person becomes corrupted/infected and then serially stalks others to corrupt/infect them.
Wanted to publicly poll 1 (reply) Who agrees with that?

To that end, i expressed my preference towards multi-girl videos and/or long format videos/serials where multiple girls of some relationship, e.g. classmates, co-workers, friends, etc... (since other relations cause credit card problems), who serially corrupt or infect others.
Also wanted to poll 2 (reply) Any agreement on longer format or serial videos where stories are carried on?

As to the above, would you agree to it even if it meant fewer updates, if they were more substantive? Poll 3 (reply)

2. With regard to what my concerns were, I advised that my primary concern was the fractionalization of the site into too many independent genres...
I realize i have spoken in the past against inclusion of specific, (what i consider to be marginal), genres including things like 'Unbirth' and 'Vore' on the primary sites like Hentaied and Parastied. I felt they were taking videos away from the focus of my already niche fetishes of Corruption, Transformation, and Impregnation. To that end they have created new sites, like Vored, Cumflation, Plants vs cunts, et al...

I have no concern with their right to expand and focus on new genres as they wish... That said, i do maintain that i have a right to continue to receive the product i pay for with a monthly subscription, as it was originally promised.

Since the 'dawn' of these new sites, the weekly... then bi-weekly... installments on the primary sites have fallen off to every 2 and a half weeks, sometimes. Now, that said, i recognize my following point is a personal one.... But only about 1 out of 20 videos on this site happen to tick my niche desires. As i said before... Serial Corruption, Transformation, and Impregnation... The reduction of posts to the 3 original sites, (the only ones that as yet have any interest for me), concerns me greatly, as it means i may only get 3 or 4 videos per year that tick my boxes... When it comes to paying $60 a month for 3 or 4 videos a year... That becomes problematic. That's $180 per video, at best. Obviously cheaper to buy one-offs.

Poll 4 (reply) Do you fee that $60 per month is a reasonable price to support the 3 main sites, if you are only receiving 3-4 videos a year to your tastes?

Poll 5 (reply) Should there be a more specific focus on the 3 main sites covered my the Multi-Site subscription fee, with deference given to the primary sites maintained subscribers with regard to original genres?

Thanks in advance!~

 

[RavenPax]

First : I'm a free user, so maybe my point of view is different from people who have a subscription.

Second :
if you subscribe to a paid subscription, I don't think it's a problem if there are videos you don't like. In my opinion, a paid subscription is about supporting work, not asking people to do what you want.
What I like about Hentaied (and what I'd like to support financially one day) is that they offer a real staging in their videos. It's cinema, not like other sites that make no effort at all. So if a video isn't to my taste, I won't take offense. Because, supposing I'm a paying subscriber, it's so that they can offer videos that have been worked on with staging and real scripts.
And even if I don't like a video, others will. So (always in the idea I'm a paying subscriber) I make it possible to create videos that satisfy people. In return, these people will pay for the videos and finance the ones I like. It's a positive circle.

As for the price, I think they try to make it not too high but without losing money. So I don't mind it.

And for the focus I don't think they should do it. I think they should do what they want and what they can. And that's a lot of things

But I understand your concern and, at the end of the day, it's up to you to decide if you want to subscribe to One site, to the "all access" one, or if you want to buy only the scenes you like

 

[Daedalus]

First : I'm a free user, so maybe my point of view is different from people who have a subscription.

Second :
if you subscribe to a paid subscription, I don't think it's a problem if there are videos you don't like. In my opinion, a paid subscription is about supporting work, not asking people to do what you want.
What I like about Hentaied (and what I'd like to support financially one day) is that they offer a real staging in their videos. It's cinema, not like other sites that make no effort at all. So if a video isn't to my taste, I won't take offense. Because, supposing I'm a paying subscriber, it's so that they can offer videos that have been worked on with staging and real scripts.
And even if I don't like a video, others will. So (always in the idea I'm a paying subscriber) I make it possible to create videos that satisfy people. In return, these people will pay for the videos and finance the ones I like. It's a positive circle.

As for the price, I think they try to make it not too high but without losing money. So I don't mind it.

And for the focus I don't think they should do it. I think they should do what they want and what they can. And that's a lot of things

But I understand your concern and, at the end of the day, it's up to you to decide if you want to subscribe to One site, to the "all access" one, or if you want to buy only the scenes you like

I can agree with most of that, it's absolutely their right to make what they want to.

That said, i do feel they have some obligation, especially at a base rate of a *steady* $720 per year, per person; to focus more on the included main sites for those committing to such a fee, rather than to continue the apparent trend of updating them less and less frequently.

As i said, i can swing the $60 fee, but that's at the upper end of what i can commit for content that only occasionally ticks my boxes. I would feel much better about it if the content updates became more regular and more involved and serial / plot centric, with fewer solo girl in a tub with tentacles.

Those sorts of videos certainly have their fans, I'm sure, but they are low effort / low hanging fruit for me. That same fan fix could be incorporated into a few scenes in a series or in a larger plot 'feature', that would tick many more boxes.

 

[RavenPax]

I can agree with most of that, it's absolutely their right to make what they want to.

That said, i do feel they have some obligation, especially at a base rate of a *steady* $720 per year, per person; to focus more on the included main sites for those committing to such a fee, rather than to continue the apparent trend of updating them less and less frequently.

As i said, i can swing the $60 fee, but that's at the upper end of what i can commit for content that only occasionally ticks my boxes. I would feel much better about it if the content updates became more regular and more involved and serial / plot centric, with fewer solo girl in a tub with tentacles.

Those sorts of videos certainly have their fans, I'm sure, but they are low effort / low hanging fruit for me. That same fan fix could be incorporated into a few scenes in a series or in a larger plot 'feature', that would tick many more boxes.

I understand your point of view and I agree with the idea that they should concentrate more on the story, with development greater than two videos restricted to the same site.

 

[chuckroddy]

it's almost as if our predictions of content being spaced out more came true, yet they keep missing deadlines. Plants vrs Cunts is now at once a month, so why even subscribe? Just ppv as that point.
Other thing is that if you have genre specific things like Futa, fine, but then you also have that in Hentaied. Personally Futa makes me sick so I avoid it, but what's the purpose of splintering the site if you then have the same elements everywhere else?
The bigges issue I have is communcation, or the lack thereof. Espically with the crowdfunding, which is critical for engagement, Why not updates? Or... even delivering on rewards?
The fact that they keep firing staff leads me to beleive there's some organizational problems here. How many editors have they fired now?
Granted, what they do do no other site even comes close. But it wouldn't be the first great idea that suddenly fell under it's own weight.

 

[RavenPax]

it's almost as if our predictions of content being spaced out more came true, yet they keep missing deadlines. Plants vrs Cunts is now at once a month, so why even subscribe? Just ppv as that point.
Other thing is that if you have genre specific things like Futa, fine, but then you also have that in Hentaied. Personally Futa makes me sick so I avoid it, but what's the purpose of splintering the site if you then have the same elements everywhere else?
The bigges issue I have is communcation, or the lack thereof. Espically with the crowdfunding, which is critical for engagement, Why not updates? Or... even delivering on rewards?
The fact that they keep firing staff leads me to beleive there's some organizational problems here. How many editors have they fired now?
Granted, what they do do no other site even comes close. But it wouldn't be the first great idea that suddenly fell under it's own weight.

For your Plants vs Cunts problem, I think that's why they have decided to launch an "all access" site. They could continue to upload only one vid per month without the risk to loose subscribers.

 

[Daedalus]

it's almost as if our predictions of content being spaced out more came true, yet they keep missing deadlines. Plants vrs Cunts is now at once a month, so why even subscribe? Just ppv as that point.
Other thing is that if you have genre specific things like Futa, fine, but then you also have that in Hentaied. Personally Futa makes me sick so I avoid it, but what's the purpose of splintering the site if you then have the same elements everywhere else?
The bigges issue I have is communcation, or the lack thereof. Espically with the crowdfunding, which is critical for engagement, Why not updates? Or... even delivering on rewards?
The fact that they keep firing staff leads me to beleive there's some organizational problems here. How many editors have they fired now?
Granted, what they do do no other site even comes close. But it wouldn't be the first great idea that suddenly fell under it's own weight.

Yeah, that's part in parcel of my concern as well.
Even when the updates were regular on Friday's like clockwork, it only made financial sense to subscribe to one site, couple of times a month, and let a few videos build up, and choose the site i thought had videos that might have content that piqued my interest.
I *WANTED* to do more, but just couldn't afford to just write off more than $60 a month for something that often ended up having no content for my particular genre. Bear in mind i support other content creators too, on sites like subscribestar.

It was to that end i thought the movement to have an all-inclusive 3 site, (at that time), for a discounted rate would make more sense, and be more sustainable. This model is really no different than other Patron type sites, wherein excellent monthly subscriber totals can be had, but they will definitely have to put in the effort.

They should take note as to what happens on any other subscription based sites when the content updates begin to fall off, and / or they start too many projects at once, leading to reduced updates overall.

That's the plainly visible trap they need to avoid.

 

[Romero]

It's not the first time I’ve received this complaint about my production, and I’m sorry to hear that you feel this way.

First, I’d like to clarify that there have been no price increases since Hentaied was first launched. We steadily increased production from the early days, when we were releasing around 20-40 minutes of footage per month. Now, we’re still releasing that amount of footage at a way higher quality, (and also well over 150-180 minutes each month on other sites that now are included in the pro subscription), without changing the price, which has remained at €29.99.

In fact, the investment we’ve made into production has increased significantly. We went from spending around €20,000 per month on content creation to well over six figures, thanks to the support of our fans. The new genres we’ve introduced are additional content, asked by our fans on this forum; they do not detract from the main production but add more value to the total membership. I do not personally make a single penny from this production, as we reinvest 100% of the revenue into improving content. I challenge you to find another production that can claim anything similar to what we do.

Regarding the issue with editors, it’s not an organizational problem, but rather the challenge of finding good editors in this industry. Skilled editors tend to earn more in mainstream projects, making it difficult for us to retain high-quality editors for adult content. Unfortunately, when editors fail to meet our standards, we have no choice but to replace them in order to maintain the quality of our videos.

You mentioned a preference for more regular updates and serial or plot-centric content, with fewer ‘solo girl in a tub with tentacles’ types of scenes. While I would love to produce more elaborate storylines on a regular basis, scenes like these are extremely expensive to create. For example, making a story-driven feature like ‘A Shadow in the Room’ (which won the Xbiz award for Best Scene this year) required me to personally invest €50,000 from my own savings. We had to rent a villa, empty it, furnish it, hire a team of over 30 people, build a forest in a studio, spend 6 hours a day on special effects, and rent thousands of euros worth of gear that we cannot afford to buy, with 4 of the top actress around, for 5 days of pre production, 4 days of production and 4 days of postproduction.

Unfortunately, it’s not financially sustainable for us to make those types of films regularly without going bankrupt. If you have any ideas on how to finance that level of production more consistently, please let me know—I would love to make more of those films because that’s what I’m passionate about.

As for niche projects like PlantsVsCunts and Vored, there are no deadlines for them. These are niche productions meant to cater to specific audiences at a lower price point (€19.99), and they’re included in the Hentaied.pro membership. I believe this adds even more value for those who subscribe, as it provides access to content that is rarely made due to the high cost and niche appeal.

I also want to address the notion that we’re ‘money grabbing.’ We do not make money from this; everything we receive is put directly back into the content. If the day comes when I sell the company because I’m exhausted, you’ll see what a truly profit-driven company would do. They would cut budgets, lower the quality, and produce content that’s easier and cheaper to make. That’s the only reason I haven’t sold the company—I care too much about the quality of what we create.

If you did not received the perks of the crowdfunding, drop us an email please. If you refer to the gin and the t-shirts, those are still in production and still haven't shipped to anyone. We're currently looking for the best way to legally ship the gin bottle over sea and around, as the process is harder than we imagined.

I hope this clears up some of your concerns. While we’re constantly working to improve and maintain the balance between high-quality production and financial viability, we will continue to make content that pushes boundaries and satisfies a diverse audience. Thanks for your support and understanding.

 

[intrep1d]

Emphasis on production quality/duration over substance/value is what's killing this site IMO. You mention raising your costs exponentially but you have so little to show for it on the consumer front. Subscribers are paying same as before but now they're getting half as many updates. You cant just tell people to appreciate the extra 20 minutes of filler/bad acting and expensive set pieces. At the end of the day, its just porn, everyone just skips through that stuff.
Original business model was hentaied: 1 price(30), lots of updates.
Now its 8 separate sites and you have to pay 60 to get access to everything.
So yeah, your prices went up.

 

[RavenPax]

Emphasis on production quality/duration over substance/value is what's killing this site IMO. You mention raising your costs exponentially but you have so little to show for it on the consumer front. Subscribers are paying same as before but now they're getting half as many updates. You cant just tell people to appreciate the extra 20 minutes of filler/bad acting and expensive set pieces. At the end of the day, its just porn, everyone just skips through that stuff.
Original business model was hentaied: 1 price(30), lots of updates.
Now its 8 separate sites and you have to pay 60 to get access to everything.
So yeah, your prices went up.

I don't think oposing quality and value makes sense. Is it not the same ?
And, maybe you skip the story part of the videos, but it's not the case for everyone, and as we can tell it's what people here wants. If it was not the case the team would not be trying so hard on this direction. So, maybe you skip those parts, but I don't think that because it's porn they shouldn't care about telling a story and taking care of the cinematography.
Plus, on your last point, if you look at it, having 8 sites for 60 instead of one for 30 means the prices didn't went up, but, in fact, they went down.

 

[Daedalus]

Not sure where the accusations of 'money grabbing' came into play, I just wanted to try to get the communities input on concerns about the new inclusive subscription model. I've seen similar situations play out on other patron subscription sites, just thought it would be good to address those concerns here. e.g. the aforementioned issues with either starting too many side projects or lowering updates to the original projects, which results in subscriber fatigue.

With regard to Intrep1d's concerns about the the subscriptions, i *think* you can still subscribe to just one site for the original price, as to the frequency of the updates getting fewer, that's a fair point. As far as Editor's being fired, i really didn't know anything about it until it was mentioned here.
Now as to the serial or plot based productions costing more, and how to get around that; Well, i think we need to ask if they necessarily *have* to cost more? I understand you went big on sets and props and all that for some of these features, but to be honest the big prop stuff i've seen with the umm... 'vore eating cannibal bed thing' have not really done much for me personally. The feature you mentioned, 'A Shadow in the Room' seemed good, but i only watched it once... Just had to re-watch it to remember what it was about, but i will address it.

The plot was overly complicated and didn't really translate well.

As best i can understand it:
Lightning hit his 'best tree' and then a demonic hand comes out of the ground and a mysterious demonic entity is seen climbing a wall, then a strange girl is masturbating and what we're later told is her girlfriend is naked in the room with her... it then goes on from there with equally befuddling events... kind of seemingly trying to stitch it all together at the end with a monolog telling us everyone we saw before is just sleeping...

A much simpler plot, like say... ummm... SCENE: 'Dorm mates at a girls college. We are casually introduced to 2-4 girls at a time, where one becomes infected by parasites / tentacles / whatever, in your typical fashion, with just a hotel room, decorated to look like a dorm... (they are the same floor plans after all), or gym showers. We act out a story of the infection taking over the whole dorm/school into a series... First the girls in the showers after PE class / sports. whatever, doesn't really matter. Then in a subsequent installment we see 1 or 2 girls from the original visit their delicious little friends in their dorm room. Then in a later install we see 2 of those girls take down the Dorm ******.. (do they still have those? been so long since college)... Eventually taking down the school admins... For a series finale, we can see the School dean addressing a whole gymnasium full of new girls (say 4-5, no need to be overly realistic...), and then one of the girls from each of the previous installments appear, blocking the doorways to the gym and take down all the remaining girls in a mass tentacle / parasite orgy...
You get something in there for every body type... Young, svelte girls, larger bodied milfs for admins, you can even work in gimmicks or new props if you want.

And for that whole series, you use only your existing props, rent only a couple of hotel rooms, an office setting, a gymnasium and a shower.
Pretty much what you do for every video already.

I think that would be a fantastic low cost series.
Wide open for spin-offs when the girls go home from school / enter the workplace. And all really for nothing more than you do with a regular shoot, save having the actresses speak the appropriate words.

 

[Romero]

Emphasis on production quality/duration over substance/value is what's killing this site IMO. You mention raising your costs exponentially but you have so little to show for it on the consumer front. Subscribers are paying same as before but now they're getting half as many updates. You cant just tell people to appreciate the extra 20 minutes of filler/bad acting and expensive set pieces. At the end of the day, its just porn, everyone just skips through that stuff.
Original business model was hentaied: 1 price(30), lots of updates.
Now its 8 separate sites and you have to pay 60 to get access to everything.
So yeah, your prices went up.

Killing the site? The site has never been more successful and never had more interest than now.

So little to show for it on consumer front? We work with the best talents, directors, location and gear worldwide. Not sure what you are talking about sir. There's more than 450 scenes that are accessible with 59.99eu. Not sure where you come from, but i sell 2 of my movies for that price on clips4sale.

We literally do what people ask us to do. People in the polls asked us for more story, so no, most of our fans watch the comedy in our videos.

Original Hentaied was lots of updates? When what where? ) I've never seen that happening and i don't remember of it.
We did not separated the content in 8 sites. we Make 8 times more content.

Not sure where the accusations of 'money grabbing' came into play, I just wanted to try to get the communities input on concerns about the new inclusive subscription model. I've seen similar situations play out on other patron subscription sites, just thought it would be good to address those concerns here. e.g. the aforementioned issues with either starting too many side projects or lowering updates to the original projects, which results in subscriber fatigue.

With regard to Intrep1d's concerns about the the subscriptions, i *think* you can still subscribe to just one site for the original price, as to the frequency of the updates getting fewer, that's a fair point. As far as Editor's being fired, i really didn't know anything about it until it was mentioned here.
Now as to the serial or plot based productions costing more, and how to get around that; Well, i think we need to ask if they necessarily *have* to cost more? I understand you went big on sets and props and all that for some of these features, but to be honest the big prop stuff i've seen with the umm... 'vore eating cannibal bed thing' have not really done much for me personally. The feature you mentioned, 'A Shadow in the Room' seemed good, but i only watched it once... Just had to re-watch it to remember what it was about, but i will address it.

The plot was overly complicated and didn't really translate well.

As best i can understand it:
Lightning hit his 'best tree' and then a demonic hand comes out of the ground and a mysterious demonic entity is seen climbing a wall, then a strange girl is masturbating and what we're later told is her girlfriend is naked in the room with her... it then goes on from there with equally befuddling events... kind of seemingly trying to stitch it all together at the end with a monolog telling us everyone we saw before is just sleeping...

A much simpler plot, like say... ummm... SCENE: 'Dorm mates at a girls college. We are casually introduced to 2-4 girls at a time, where one becomes infected by parasites / tentacles / whatever, in your typical fashion, with just a hotel room, decorated to look like a dorm... (they are the same floor plans after all), or gym showers. We act out a story of the infection taking over the whole dorm/school into a series... First the girls in the showers after PE class / sports. whatever, doesn't really matter. Then in a subsequent installment we see 1 or 2 girls from the original visit their delicious little friends in their dorm room. Then in a later install we see 2 of those girls take down the Dorm ******.. (do they still have those? been so long since college)... Eventually taking down the school admins... For a series finale, we can see the School dean addressing a whole gymnasium full of new girls (say 4-5, no need to be overly realistic...), and then one of the girls from each of the previous installments appear, blocking the doorways to the gym and take down all the remaining girls in a mass tentacle / parasite orgy...
You get something in there for every body type... Young, svelte girls, larger bodied milfs for admins, you can even work in gimmicks or new props if you want.

And for that whole series, you use only your existing props, rent only a couple of hotel rooms, an office setting, a gymnasium and a shower.
Pretty much what you do for every video already.

I think that would be a fantastic low cost series.
Wide open for spin-offs when the girls go home from school / enter the workplace. And all really for nothing more than you do with a regular shoot, save having the actresses speak the appropriate words.

The bed eating girls thing was the highest request of 2023-2024 from our fan base, and was entirely successfully crowdfunded; a strong signal that was interesting to a lot of people. Like the cocoon thingy which is asked since 2021. Now that we have more budget to spend, we can achieve good results doing those compared to the first belly we had.

"A shadow in the room" was written by Toshio Maeda, the creator of modern Tentacle Porn. I think that was cool, was great to collaborate with him and to produce that movie was super fun. The sex was pretty dope too.

The idea of the school and Parasite is something we are working on in Los Angeles right now with Ricky Greenwood.
"Cheap" haha. it will cost a lot of money for the location. But i think is doable. If you want to suggest scripts idea, please do

 

[tentacle_fan]

I'm absolutely happy about the way that hentaied develops over the years. This portal is a masterpiece, it is the only known community which fulfills our dream of tentacle action in a way that's is not a cheap porn in which girls play with a simple garden hose (like other clips on C4S for example). The tentacles look real the scenery and locations (scary dangerous places) are FANTASTIC!!! There is a story behind every clip in cinema like Quality !!!! This is the reason why I came here and i stay here ! I always loved tentacle and monster Parts in Horror movies. Like in horror movies i love there is a bit foreplay. Girls enters a dangerous place, tentacles crawl to her, etc. Its like a horror movie based on our fetish. The way in which you made my script idea in the "tunnel" clip is outstanding! That Scenery is wo WOW ! Extremely detailed, amazing picture quality. PERFECT !

My wish is that hentaied continues exactly the way that its moving right now I my opinion there is no need to produce cheap clips every week.
Quality instead of quanitiy Keep up that good work !!!

Thanks to the entire Team and the community which makes our dreams come true